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  JW compassion?

  by William Penwell in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i have a nephew that has just recently being diagnosed with a life threatening disease through bad choices he has made in his life over the last 20 years.

  now he has asked myself and my sons to be there for him and without being judgemental we have being up at the hospital every other day for the last couple of weeks.

  now this is the part where i am just pissed right off.. one of my nephews other cousins goes to the hospital and starts giving him a guilt trip, saying that this was all his own fault that she couldn't talk to him for the last 20 years and his sickness now is all because he left jehooba organization blah blah blah.

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  If they cannot just visit the sick individual and give them moral support in their time of need without being judgemental, then stay the f*** away.
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  JW compassion?

  by William Penwell in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i have a nephew that has just recently being diagnosed with a life threatening disease through bad choices he has made in his life over the last 20 years.

  now he has asked myself and my sons to be there for him and without being judgemental we have being up at the hospital every other day for the last couple of weeks.

  now this is the part where i am just pissed right off.. one of my nephews other cousins goes to the hospital and starts giving him a guilt trip, saying that this was all his own fault that she couldn't talk to him for the last 20 years and his sickness now is all because he left jehooba organization blah blah blah.

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  William Penwell

  I have a nephew that has just recently being diagnosed with a life threatening disease through bad choices he has made in his life over the last 20 years. Now he has asked myself and my sons to be there for him and without being judgemental we have being up at the hospital every other day for the last couple of weeks. Now this is the part where I am just pissed right off.

  One of my nephews other cousins goes to the hospital and starts giving him a guilt trip, saying that this was all his own fault that she couldn't talk to him for the last 20 years and his sickness now is all because he left Jehooba organization blah blah blah. I am just beside myself that she would pull this s*** but then what to expect for an organization that is based on conditional love. If it was myself, I would have told her to f*** off.....

  Just venting but thoughts anyone?
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  I’m Sending You My Thoughts and Prayers

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  how many people here can sincerely say those words to someone?

  i take it most here do not say prayers, right?

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  As a non religious person I never use the term ""sending my thoughts and prayers".
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  Alex Jones, Infowars Ban on Youtube, FB and other platforms

  by pleaseresearch in

  1. social
  2. current

  what are you thoughts on this?.

  i find this alarming because jones was very outspoken and had great guests on discussing topics most other media outlets wouldn't go near.. the fact that many have restricted him access to their medium what does this say on our freedoms of speech?.

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  I think any social media outlet feel a persons speech is threatening disinformation that could end up harming someone else, they have a moral obligation to not allow that on their sites. By them carrying such hate speech, they could be opening themselves up to lawsuits.
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  The 'IN' families

  by punkofnice in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  one thing i don't miss about being a jobo, is those families that ruled the congregations.. i've seen how the elders protected their own using our old friend, nepotism.. eg.

  the son of an elder that stole a car and was prosecuted but 'let off' because it was kept secret and all his relatives were elders in the same congregation.

  it certainly went on when i was an elder but i wasn't one of the 'in' crowd.

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  There is differently a double standard if you are one of the IN crowd. Where is lived there was one elder that had a lot of pull and served on the blood committee. Years ago he ended up having sexual relations with a sister while his own wife was dying of cancer. He was DF'd but was back in a few years later and back on the blood committee and giving talks at the district conventions. If this was a regular rank and file member, he would have being shunned for a lot longer and never given back any of his privileged that quickly.
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  JWs & "generations"

  by Magnum in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  we all know what a mess the jw "generation" teachings have been.

  but, there is one hard and fast truth concerning jws and "generations" - that is, that many generations of jws have died without the realization of the hope they were promised.. there were many before my grandfather's time, but i'm going to start with his.

  his generation, his peers, lived at a time when jwdom was exciting, bold, confident, seemingly deeper and scholarly, seemingly genuinely concerned about the preaching work and saving lives.

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  William Penwell

  As an ex Jdub that was raised in the religion, that went through the 1975 BS, I can relate to what you are saying. I would have liked to have done more with my life but I am now come to terms with what I have accomplished and I am now at peace with myself. I am semi retired and into the entertainment business, something that was frowned upon growing up. I do it because it is enjoyable for me and makes my life have a meaning.

  I do not see an end to the WT as they will always bring in new recruits and use the same tired old, "end of the system" scare tactics they have always used. It has worked for them for 140 years and I do not see them changing their tactics any time soon.
  
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  Cart Witnesses vs Faith Healing Church

  by pale.emperor in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  today in liverpool the cart witnesses were in their usual speck in bold street holding out their wafer thin rags and books that they literally can't even give away.

  but today the city centre was flooded with some sort of black church handing out their leaflets and little invitations to a "special event" this sunday.

  i took a leaflet off them as they handed it to me and they were very smiley and cheerful.

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  Ha ha ha one wacko group debating with another wacko group.
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  Do You Ever Think Of ALL The Wasted Time Because You Were a JW?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  the longer you are out the more you see how a cult steals all your time, resources and energy.

  we wasted so much because we were witnesses!

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  I agree the time I sent in the WT could have being better used in getting a better education and a better job but I cannot undue the past. I look to my past as a life lesson and move on to make my present life better. Regardless look at the time you were in the organization as a growing experience that we all had to go through to get to where we are today.
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  Ran into my brother at a concert; first time I've seen him in years......

  by dubstepped in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  my wife and i went to a concert on friday night.

  there was a friend of ours there doing security, and she happens to be an exjw too.

  she sent me a message on messenger to inform me that my brother and his wife were at the show, not knowing that i'd be there too.

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  Always remember it was their choice to shun you. Don't ever let them make you feel guilty of their actions. I am going through this with my own family. I do not care any more as life is too short to worry about stupidity.
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  A WTF Moment While In the WTS

  by Searching in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  has anyone else had a moment, while still within the organization (and before learning ttatt) that caused them to stop and go, "this is kind of messed up.".

  for instance, back i believe in the early 2000's, i was attending a dc with my family.

  it was announced at the beginning of the convention that there was going to be a special announcement at the end, so for everyone to please try to remain until the very end of the meeting.

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  I have told this story on here before but one of the last WTF moments I had at a convention was one of the last time I attended a convention right after 9/11. An elder that I have known for 40 years cam up and said hello. Then he made a snide remark about how all of a sudden people start coming back after a couple of planes hit a couple of buildings.